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My Rebuttal to a Muslim’s Claims about Qur’an and the Bible

QUESTIONS:  

1.) Your allegation that the Quran is mainly written by Muhammad and his cohorts is a lie, read http://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/quran/false_accusations/abrogation_claims_(P1216).html

ANSWER: That is one of the Masters of Arts of Islam, Master of Arts in Lying and Master of Arts in Denying. These facts are supported by several Hadiths depending on the statement. However, to cover this shame, Islam denies these Hadiths and instead acknowledges only few Hadiths, including the Bukhari which contains less shameful facts compared to the ones rejected. Nonetheless, assuming that these rejected Hadiths are indeed fabricated, let us use our common sense in analyzing the Koranic verses given by your source, and also I will provide Koranic verses to support my argument so that Muslim apologists will have no room for denial, here are the verses given by your source;

“A.L.R. this is a book whose verses have been perfected” 11:1 

: “. . . have been perfected”,  why there is a need for perfection? It means before the perfection there were flaws existed while this book was revealed by the all-wise Allah in detail to Muhammad. The fact that Allah changed or perfected Their revelations, it means They are not God. Allah have the reputation of being all-wise, all-knower, and knower of the unseen; but unfortunately errors had room in Their declarations. They failed to know the visible things and failed to see the unseen.

“……the words of God are unchangeable” 10:64

: This verse complicates more of the issue of contradiction in Koran for it tells us that none can change the words of Allah, But in verses [2:106 & 16:101] Allah substituted Their previous revelations. I will put down the wording in verse [16:101];

“And when We substitute a verse in place of a verse – and Allah is most knowing of what He sends down – they say, “You, [O Muhammad], are but an inventor [of lies].” But most of them do not know.”

: This verse tells us that Allah, the all-knowing and knower of the unseen, changed Their previous revelations. What is funny after They changed Their former revelations, still They have the audacity to claim that They are the most knowing. Allah failed to stop Muhammad from uttering Satanic words during Their revelation [53:19-20], that’ts why They needed to correct them. This proves that Allah are not almighty and all-knowing. Additionally, Muhammad is a fake prophet, consider this verse;

[Deuteronomy 18:20] “But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

If Muhammad had uttered other gods and Allah were not able to stop him, the verdict is, both are fake.

2.)  Read “Quran and Bible comparison”, you will know the truth: http://islamtomorrow.com/articles/Bible_vs_Quran.asp

ANSWER: About your second source, I want to point out the author’s lying or ignorance about the Bible. 

THE BIBLE 

Old Testament 

“Naturally, there have been many different translations to a great number of languages over the centuries and one could not expect them (books of Bible) to be identical in text or meaning” 

Answer: One could not expect them to be identical in text or meaning? In text yes, but in meaning, there are 2.3 Billions Christians believe that the books in the Bible are agreeing to each other. 

New Testament 

“To mention two very clear differences for example; the Catholic Bible [c. 325 A.D] contains 73 books in total, while the Protestant Bible contains only 66 books”

Answer: I wonder why the author labeled this topic as New Testament but he tackled the whole Bible instead. But anyway, I proceed to answering his allegation; The Protestantism is a rebellion of Catholicism in 1517. That is their own religious principle to use only 66 books in their Bible version. The Protestants just took out 7 books from the original Bible (compiled by Catholicism). They did not alter the message or idea of any book making it different from the original. 

QURAN

The  Quran Means “Recitation” 

ANSWER: What makes it special? I don’t see the importance of being recited and written. Reciting is no longer new to the Hebrews for they recited the contents of their Scripture long before Islam. And what is wrong of being written? God himself wrote His Ten commandments on the stone tablets twice. 

The author says; “the documentation in writing about the Quran has been preserved in museums throughout the world, including the Topekopi Palace in Istanbul, Turkey, the museum in Tashkent, Uzbekistan and also in England” 

ANSWER: Provided that this claim is true, but how about in the earlier time of Islam? Was the Quran or Recitation safe after Muhammad died? Bukhari reported that there were four versions of Quran copies or Recitations emerged. And to avoid this problem, Uthman ordered to burn all copies except the version of Hudhaifa (Sahih al-Bukhari, 6:61:510). 

Also Read: http://www.harvardhouse.com/quran_purity.htm

Koran has Only One Version – Arabic

ANSWER: What makes special in the one version? Even if the Koran was written originally in Arabic alone, it could not escape from lies, errors, and contradictions stated within. Moreover, it is not true that the Quran has only one Arabic version, nowadays, the Quran has thirty one Arabic versions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lqQBVtUWvo&t=20s.  In contrast, having many authors adds the uniqueness of the Bible, since how come the messages of the books agree considering that they were written by different authors, as well as written in different regions, languages, and generations?

The Koran is Memorized by Millions – Entirely  

 “The important thing to keep in mind about the Quran is the memorization and transmission of the actual “Recitation” just as it came to Muhammad” 

ANSWER: “… actual recitation just as it came to Muhammad“? This statement is a big fat lie, we know that there were various versions of recitations happened after Muhammad died, and Uthman chose only one version _the version of Hudaifa. However, despite of Uthman’s effort, there are still many Arabic Qurans today. 

And I doubt if there are ten Millions had memorized the Quran. Even Muhammad himself was not able to memorize all of the so-called revelations https://www.answering-islam.org/Green/forgot.htm.

Each Muslim Has “Quran” Memorized

ANSWER: This is utterly a lie. I have a Muslim Girlfriend and she could not memorize a single verse in Quran, how much more the entire book? Most Muslims today are ignorant of their Scriptures. Moreover, Islamic history tells us that only few Muslims could recite the Quran, even Muhammad could not recite the whole Quran. 

God Speaks in First Person to Mankind in Quran 

ANSWER: Another lie. Allah transmitted Their message to Muhammad through the so-called Angel Gabriel. Nowhere in Quran that says Allah appeared and talked to Muhammad. In the Bible, God himself talked to Adam in person [Genesis 3:10-11]; appeared to Abraham in three persons [Genesis 18:1-2]; wrestled with Jacob as a person or man [Genesis 32:24]; showed to Moses and Israelites in the form of cloud and fire [Exodus 13:21]. Likewise, God dwelt with the Israelites in the form of Jesus [read the Gospel]. Moreover, the said angel Gabriel did not introduce his name to Muhammad, In fact, Muhammad thought it was Satan who squeezed him since it tortured him. It was Kahdija his wife who concluded that it was angel Gabriel because it disappeared when she and Muhammad performed sexual acts [Sira No. 154, Ishaq].

Quran Mentions Itself  

ANSWER: What makes special of mentioning itself? What is more important, the mentioning or essence of the Scripture? The Quran has a lot of contradictions, ignorance, killing commandments, and immoral teachings. 

Quran Describes God’s Nature Exactly 

ANSWER: How did you know that the Koranic description of God is His exact nature? How can you believe Quran if it’s filled with ignorance, contradictions, falsehood, and myths? The Quran teaches that the sun sets in the muddy spring of the Earth (18:85-86); it teaches that there are seven flat Earths and seven solid skies; it also teaches that the stars were made by Allah as missiles to shoot evil spirits (37:6-7 & 67:5); and many more. Additionally, Muhammad saw his Allah as a man with uncircumcised penis https://sunnah.com/bukhari/81/113. 

“There is no room left for doubt after reading the Quran in the Arabic language”.

ANSWER: So if you read Quran in English, you will have room left for doubt after? If that so, it is better for Mecca to abolish all the translations of Quran, and kept their Islam themselves alone. You know what, this is one of the defenses of your religion, if it has no room left to explain the Koranic problem, your leaders simply reject the translation. I tell you, Arabic language is not alien, hence it is translatable. It is natural to have a slight divergence in the translation, but the contradictions in Quran are so grievous that it can never be justified. There are three, four, and even seven contradicting statements in one topic. Besides, Quran not only contains ignorant, false, and contradicting statements, but also Satanic verses _this problem definitely is not caused by wrong translation.

“He is for instance, the All-Knowing; the All-Hearing; the All-Seeing; the All-Forgiving; the All- Loving; the All-Merciful; the Only One God. There is never a contradiction to this found anywhere in the Quran”.

ANSWER: The all-wise Allah, all-knower, and knower of the unseen? I doubt it, for Allah replaced his revelations [2:106 & 16:101]. Likewise, Satan was able to sneak his verses during Allah’s revelation to Muhammad, and Allah was not able to prevent Muhammad from uttering other gods. Muhammad in that event became the prophet of Satan. So it means Allah is powerless to know all and to see the unseen.

No contradictions? Islam gives you confusions: they say,  “our Koran contains no contradictions”, but you can find many in it https://silawantribe.com/2018/10/24/much-contradictions-in-quran/; Muslims say, “we are a religion of peace”,  but their Quran commands killing of all non-Muslims; Muslims say, “there is no compulsion in our religion”, but they execute their members who wanted to leave Islam; Muslims say, “Jesus did no die and resurrect”, but you can find a Koranic verse telling Jesus will die and resurrect; Muslims say, “Jesus is just human made of dust”, but you can find a Koranic verse telling Jesus is a spirit of Allah; and many more inconsistent claims. 

On the other hand, our God Jesus never erred, He’s flawless and powerful. He stopped the storm, expelled legion of demons from the possessed men, cured inborn physical disability, cured the grievous sicknesses like leprosy, He raised dead people and rose from the dead Himself. And He will come back to judge the people including Muslims [Ibn Kathir’s tafsir on Quran 43:61].

Scientific Miracles in Quran

ANSWER: When it comes to miracles and prophesies, the Bible has so much in it. But the so-called miracles in Quran are lies and ridiculous. Muslims just don’t know the false claims of their leaders because they are ignorant of their own scriptures. I tell you, there is no single miraculous verse in Quran. I will expose the falsehood of these so-called prophetic claims soon. 

“Bible” is NOT in the Bible 

ANSWER: I don’t know if the author of your source is ignorant of the Bible or he purposely twisted the truth. He is telling that the New Testament was not yet in the Bible at the time of Timothy, therefore, Paul was wrong to say to Timothy that he studied the Bible or Holy Scripture.

Your source quoted this, “Since you were a young man you have studied the holy scriptures, all scriptures inspired by God”,  as evidence that the Bible is not in the Bible.

First let me put down the complete verse, so that I can explain to you well. Here it is;

[2 Timothy 3:15] “And that from a child you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus”.

Of the 25 Bible translations [https://biblehub.com/2_timothy/3-15.htm], I have not encountered a word “studied” but instead “taught or known” are generally used. If we talk about Holy Scriptures or Writings, it does not mean the Bible itself. This refers to the different Books inspired by God. Any book in the Bible can be called Holy Scripture. The Old Testament can be called Holy Scriptures as well. The word “Bible” is derived from the Koine Greek word “Ta Biblia” means “the books”. The Bible is composed of different writings which early Christians believed as inspired by God, but not all Holy Scriptures or books are in the Bible. In either way, whether Paul referred to the Old Testament or New Testament, or to both Scriptures, he was correct in saying to Timothy “you have known the Holy Scriptures”. Because the knowledge about God Jesus at the time of Timothy was already there. Paul and other Apostles were already writing and announcing to the people about the “good news or Gospel”. In fact, what the author of your source failed to realize is that, he is using the verse quoted from the Book of 2 Timothy written by Paul to Timothy, and this Book is a Holy Scripture for it is one of the Books in the New Testament. So, how come the author of your source said that the New Testament was not yet existing at the time of Timothy? All books in the New Testament are about Jesus. The author of your source shows his ignorance of the Bible.

Bible Curses Church Fathers Who REMOVED Book of Revelations

ANSWER: For your information, the Catholic Church never removed any book from the Bible, it was the Protestant Church which removed the seven books from the original Bible. For the first 1,400 years there was no other Christian Church emerged except the Catholicism. After Martin Luther was excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church, he founded his own Church in 1517 called ‘Protestantism’. He questioned which books should be part of his own Biblical canon.  At various times he advocated removing the Book of Hebrews, James, Jude, and Revelation.  However, when he translated the Bible into German language, he kept the mentioned books. Therefore it was the Protestant Church which removed and put back the Book of revelation in their own Bible version.  As you know, not only Islam that severely attack the Catholic Church, but also the Protestantism and its offshoots (like Seventh  Day Adventist, Born Again, etc.).  Martin Luther removed some books from the original Bible for a couple reasons. First, he disagreed with a few doctrines of the Roman Catholic Church derived from these books, like purgatory and prayers for the dead. Second, these books contradicted with his faith-in-Jesus-alone doctrine. 

Whose Word Is It? 

The author says;So if you go to the Bible and point out some mistakes that are in it, you are going to be told (by Christians): Those mistakes were not there in the original manuscript, they have crept in so that we see them there today”.

ANSWER: Excuse me, it is Islam which uses this alibi. Which religion keeps telling that the original Arabic writing is correct, without contradictions, you can feel no doubt after you read, etc.? If there is a question raised against the Bible, Christians dig into it for an answer. And if there is any error of the translation from the origin, they show the evidence. Unlike Islam, which used to tell people that the Arabic version of Koran is correct, and only the translation made it wrong. For your information, the Bible is not only prophetic, but also historical. When it comes to prophesy (the word or act of God), the Bible is infallible. The supposed contradictions fell to the historical side. The Bible is 99-98 percent accurate, so its percentage of credibility is still high. How can a man preserve documents from 3400 years ago without a single flaw? 

 Are There Mistakes?

The author of your source presented verses [2 Samuel 10:18] and [1 Chronicles] as contradicting and erroneous.  

[2 Samuel 10:18] And the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew the men of seven hundred chariots of the Syrians, and forty thousand horsemen, and smote Shobach the captain of their host, who died there.

[1 Chronicles 19:18] But the Syrians fled before Israel; and David slew of the Syrians seven thousand men which fought in chariots, and forty thousand footmen, and killed Shophach the captain of the host.

Answer: Actually there are two contradictions raised by bible critics about this allegation; one, is the supposed numerical contradiction between the seven hundred mentioned in 2 Samuel and the seven thousands mentioned in 1 chronicles, and the other, is the forty thousand men who were slain by David which described as horsemen in 2 Samuel and footmen in 1 chronicles. But the author of your source just concerned of the latter. Nevertheless, I will solve the two of them. 

First, keep in mind that 2 Samuel and 1 Chronicles were written by different authors. Each writer has his own way of presenting a report, so you cannot expect a similar wordings or figures of their stories. Likewise, if you have spotted dissimilar wordings or numerical figures in their reports, it does not mean these data are contradicting, but they can be two pieces of information as well.

If you can notice, the seven hundred mentioned in 2 Samuel is referred to the number of chariots, while the seven thousands mentioned in 1 chronicles is referred to the number of men in the chariots.

If you are a soldier whose means of transportation is only a horse, you can be called as a horseman or cavalier. And if you get down from a horse in order to fight on foot, then you can be called as footsoldier or footman. In the battle, horsemen and footmen can be applied interchangeably. 

 How Did Judas Die?

The author quoted [Matthew 27:5] and [Acts 1] as a contradiction. Since in the preceding verse, Judas hanged himself, but in the following verse Judas fell headlong.

ANSWER: Again this author did not specify the other so-called opposing verse. Let us read these alleged verses;

[Matthew 27:5] Then Judas threw the silver coins down in the Temple and went out and hanged himself.

[Acts 1:18] With the reward of his wickedness Judas bought a field, and falling headlong, he burst open in the middle and all his intestines spilled out.

: [Mathew 27:5] tells us the cause of Judas death, which is ‘he hanged himself’. While [Acts 1:18] tells us what happened to the hanged dead body of Judas. When his corpse started to decompose, it fell headlong and his stomach burst open, spilling out his intestines. [Acts 1:18] is not a contradiction against [Matthew 27:5], but rather a continuation of Judas’ death account.

MY MESSAGE TO ISLAMIC APOLOGISTS 

Before you exalt your religion and assail accusations against the Bible, solve first the blunder in your Koran, Don’t you know that your Koran does not know about Trinity? Here are the proofs;

[Koran 4:171] “O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: Nor say of God aught but the truth. CHRIST JESUS the son of MARY was (no more than) an apostle of God, and His Word, which He bestowed on MARY, and a SPIRIT proceeding from Him: so believe in God and His apostles. Say not “TRINITY” : desist: it will be better for you: for God is one God: Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs.”

[Koran 5:116] And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, “O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, ‘TAKE ME AND MY MOTHER AS DEITIES BESIDES ALLAH ?'” He will say, “Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is knower of the unseen.

: In the verses above, the (all-wise, all-knower, and knower of the unseen) Allah, think that the Trinity persons are JESUS, MARY, and ALLAH.

Quran has many errors, but this error is great. This could never have happened since the Trinity is the main issue of the Islamic accusation against Catholicism. If Allah do not know about a simple subject here on Earth, how much more about Heavenly and spiritual matters? These verses will demolish Islam if its Billion followers can know and understand this fact. Take note that the Quran also failed to identify Mary mother of Jesus, it thought that Mary was Merriam, sister of Aaron and daughter of Imran; Also it failed to describe the shape of the Earth, it thinks that the Earth is spread like carpet [15:19, 20:53, 43:10]; Also, Allah thought that the Earth and the sky were once a solid piece and later separated [21:30]. These errors confirm the notion that the Quran was mainly written by Muhammad and his cohorts.

Muhammad had scribes that wrote his revelations down for him. One scribe was `Abdullah Ibn Sa’d Ibn Abi Sarh. As Sarh wrote these revelations down, he frequently made suggestions on improving their wording. Muhammad often agreed and allowed the changes to be made. Eventually, Sarh left Islam, knowing it could not be from God if a mere scribe were allowed to change God’s word. Later, after the conquest of Mecca, Muhammad ordered Sarh’s death.

To those who do not know about Trinity, the Holy Trinity is a doctrine of the Catholic Church that God is one nature but emphasized Himself to mankind in three persons, namely, (God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit). 

Author:

The author is just a simple man, He was a carving and carpentry sub-contractor. But lately, he discovered that his true passion is writing. He studied at the University of San Jose-Recoletos, took up Bachelor of Science in Industrial Engineering.

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